Ed Litton, the Southern Baptist president who has been caught up in a plagiarism scandal that was exposed shortly after his election in June but dates as far back as 2013, has admitted that he sometimes does not study to prepare his own sermons at all but just preaches what his “preaching team” prepares.

Litton took heat a while back when a video surfaced of him admitting that he “used to lie” about sermon preparation and that he used to tell people he spent far more time on it than he actually did. Litton has already openly admitted to using a sermon prep team, but until now, in a recently surfaced audio clip, he would have had us believe that he always at least had a hand in that sermon prep.

According to Litton, however, that’s not always the case.

“The interesting thing was that has become so helpful,” Litton told Josh Taylor Sermonary in a podcast interview, “for me, was I got an email Monday evening from the preaching team, they went over the text without me. Which was awesome, this is what we do.”

“So I said, alright, I need to know, here’s where I’m thinking–in a letter–I said you guys tear it apart,” Litton continued, “Tell me where I’m wrong, tell me what you think is best. And language, we talk about language, we talk about tone, all those things because they’re all younger.”

And so that week, I had a little bit of studying to do in between killing pheasants and taking pictures,” Litton gloated, “I literally walked into church on Friday and started filming.”