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Expose of Charismatic False Teacher, Jack Hayford of Foursquare Church International

by | Apr 22, 2021

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“God has used Rick Warren as an effective instrument, and this book reveals why. He’s kept grounded on eternal values and rooted in the Vine of ultimate truth? Christ Jesus.” –Jack Hayford, Pastor, The Church on the Way, Van Nuys, CA

Source: http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/warrenquotes.html

I think the most glaring if not astonishing oxymoron, is that Rick Warren is a Southern Baptist, which historically has banned tongue (glossolalia) because they are Cessationists. But Jack Hayford is a Pentecostal. So the major question that should be asked is: “why didn’t the SBC ban Jack Hayford, and rebuke Warren for forming an unholy alliance with him?” And why would Hayford extol Warren vs. rebuking him and his SBC denomination for condemning tongues? Hayford claims to get words of knowledge from God. But even if these Gifts of the Holy Spirit are for today, God would never give a word of knowledge or inspired someone to tell the world and the church how great Rick Warren’s book(s) is when his Purpose Driven Life is riddled with false teachings that collide with Scripture. In 2006 I was questioned by someone who received my documentary exposing Assembly of God Pastor Lee McFarland and Anthony Niger, as to why I included Jack Hayford, T.D. Jakes, and Kenneth Copeland, who spoke at the recent Azusa Street Revival Centennial. So it is appropriate that I do respond! My reason for opposing T.D. Jakes, Kenneth Copeland, and Jack Hayford are not because I disagreed with their methods, though I also disagree with those, rather it is because of the content of their teaching as well as the false teachers they promote and endorse and even co-labor with. I am not unique in my assessment of these three teachers. Their published statements speak for themselves. But there are also a great number of biblical discernment ministries besides mine that have done extensive research on their teachings who are highly credible. But credible or not, the bottom line, is we must all be good Bereans and simply line up their teachings with Scripture. I can only hope and pray that many of you are simply not aware of all their teachings. Twelve years later, see what happened to Lee McFarland:

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The Assemblies of God Leadership Quickly Restored Lee McFarland to the Pastorate After His Predatory Affair and Lawsuit:


But of the three teachers about whom I was questioned, Jack Hayford is probably the most painful on at least a personal level, because I was once a member of his Church on the Way, and a very close relative of mine was a member of a Foursquare Church. So as the star in Clear and Present Danger said when having to confront the President of the United States who had betrayed his troops said: “Sir, it gives me no pleasure to do so!”

Jack Hayford is a major collaborator with Rick Warren’s programs and teachings, both in national conferences as well as via the Foursquare Gospel church denomination. He was President of the Foursquare Gospel church denomination and was the de facto leader and pastor of this denomination, which has imported Rick Warren’s programs and books. He is the rough equivalent to the Foursquare Church denomination of Tom Trask, General Superintendent of the Assemblies of God in the U.S.

Next to the AG, the Foursquare Church is one of the largest Pentecostal denominations in the U.S. A large number of Foursquare Churches have run Rick Warren’s programs and sell his Purpose Driven Life book. And not unlike Tom Trask, Jack Hayford is promoting Carl Jung via Warren’s SHAPE Program Personality Temperament Divination. But this should not be surprising because Hayford promotes Jung via his massive promotion of Richard Foster and the Jung-embedded Cleansing Stream program. I know this first hand too because my close relative has been a leader of this program at his church. So, I would not even need to outline any more of Hayford’s teachings in the public domain because his collaboration with Rick Warren should disqualify him and mark him as a false teacher. I am hoping that by proving how much Hayford promotes Jung, you will be convinced.

Jack Hayford is a major co-conspirator with Rick Warren of the first order. And because of this Scripture (and many more), I am compelled to both mark him and expose him before the whole church:

2 John 1:10: If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into [your] house, neither bid him God speed:

2 John 1:11: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

But there is much more documentation of the rest of his false teachings and the false teachers he promotes by many established discernment ministries to justify calling him apostate as well as Copeland and T.D. Jakes. Here is are some case studies on Warren’s Purpose Driven “Resister” victims of spiritual abuse:

Wall Street Journal Front Page article: The ‘Purpose Driven Church’ Splits Believers – Suzanne Sataline



“This past January, Robert Schuller held his 2005 Leadership Institute conference, a four-day event. In light of recent statements made by Saddleback representatives, in which they told of Rick Warren’s distancing from Robert Schuller because of his increasingly liberal and universalistic beliefs, we find it intriguing to see the line up of speakers at Schuller’s event. They include Jack Hayford, leading pastor and speaker for the Foursquare denomination.”

Source: http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/newslettermarch.htm.

ROBERT SCHULLER was a known apostate, New Ager, and Universalist, who will delight if one of his grandchildren becomes a Muslim. Two great exposes that document Schuller’s heresies:



This kind of teaching is one of the main reasons we left a church that we were very close to. Also see: Mr. Hayford relates:

“Redeeming worship centers on the Lord’s Table. Whether your tradition celebrates it as communion, Eucharist, the Mass, or the Lord’s Supper, we are all called to this centerpiece of Christian worship.” (28)

“This statement reveals the “walls of division” are the walls that separate the Church of Rome and the Orthodox Church from the balance of Christendom. The truth is that the Eucharist and Mass are not equivalent to the Lord’s Supper. The Church of Rome and the Orthodox Church teach that this sacrament is efficacious in and of itself. Furthermore, they believe the bread and wine became the literal body and blood of Christ via an act of alchemy performed by the priest (this is called transubstantiation). The commemoration of the Lord’s Supper is simply what Scripture demands—a memorial service (“this do in remembrance of Me”) (29). The Lord’s Supper is IN NO WAY EFFICACIOUS—forgiving no sin of the partaker.”

Source: http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1171.cfm

Furthermore, as it states in even the NIV Translation (The Bible that Pat & Shirley Boone gave to Karen and me as a wedding present and both signed), in Acts says:

Act 3:20 and that he may send the Christ, who has been appointed for you-even Jesus.

Act 3:21 He must remain in heaven until the time comes for God to restore everything, as he promised long ago through his holy prophets.

Act 3:22 For Moses said, ‘The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your own people; you must listen to everything he tells you.

Act 3:23 Anyone who does not listen to him will be completely cut off from among his people.

Therefore Communion cannot mean that Christ is physically present, therefore Roman Catholicism is completely wrong and therefore Jack Hayford is wrong to even suggest the reality of Eucharist or Mass, confuse and conflate the two. This is completely heretical.


Cleansing Stream is a counseling ministry rooted in the same Jungian Psychotherapy as Theophostic Counseling which I have written an article on, based on the teachings of Proof: “She also promoted Jungian psychotherapy, and believed Jesus became a part of the collective unconscious of the human race. Sanford called God “primal energy,” “the very life-force existing in a radiation of an energy … from which all things evolved,” that “God … made everything out of Himself and somehow He put a part of Himself into everything” and called Jesus “that most profound of psychiatrists.” Sanford’s pastor was Morton Kelsey who studied at the C.G. Jung Institute near Zurich, Switzerland, and who became a Jungian psychologist, as did Sanford’s son, John Sanford. (Referenced from The Seduction of Christianity and Occult Invasion by Dave Hunt). The “headwaters” of the Cleansing Stream are clear. Source: http://www.letusreason.org/curren21.htm. This did not take much convincing because I recognized many of the same ideas in Rick Warren’s defense of his Discovery 301 Class and Theophostic Counseling.

Also see:


It is well known that Hayford promotes Richard Foster and sat on his Renovare Board of Reference. But because I have written extensively on Richard Foster (whose office threatened legal action against me), who perhaps more than anyone is responsible for importing Roman Catholic mystic teachings into the Evangelical Church as a Trojan horse, I refer you to:


He was one of the major speakers. Hear Pastor Bob DeWaay’s radio interview entitled Azusa Street Hall of Shame: SOURCE: http://www.oneplace.com/ministries/Critical_Issues_Commentary/archives.asp




Jack Hayford: “The Message is certainly destined to become a devotional classic, not to mention a powerful pastoral tool.” I discuss this to some extent in my books on Rick Warren. The author Eugene Peterson is also a major editor on Richard Foster’s Renovare Bible. See Dave Hunt’s expose of it at: http://www.thebereancall.org/Newsletter/pdf/2005/aug2005.pdf

Berit Kjos wrote a brilliant piece exposing it: https://www.crossroad.to/text/responses/message.htm

Also see: http://www.despatch.cth.com.au/Articles_V/the_message_e_petersen.htm






Jack Hayford is a major player in promoting this organization’s programs. Promise Keepers is well known for being an ecumenical organization (as is Foster…the foreword in his book declares it), it also promote oaths and covenants one of the very reasons I opposed Rick Warren’s program in my two books on him. Finally, this organization promotes John Eldredge’s Wild at Heart which is also based on some of Carl Jung’s false teaching of the yin-yang animus vs. anima. I devoted chapter 11 to in my first book on Warren’s temperament divination…also see the Appendix on Jung and the “true self (real man) vs. “false self” in chapter 11 as and the color charts at the end of the online version of chapter 11 at: https://procinwarn.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Whos-Driving-the-Purpose-Driven-Church.pdf. “Eldredge’s views on the nature of man come directly from pagan myth poet Robert Bly and occultic psychologist Carl Jung, NOT from Scripture” Proof: http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/orrel18.html.

Eldredge builds his case based on Jungian archetypes and exploring the masculine vs. female supposed aspects of manhood, taken right out of Jung’s occult-derived personality theory. Eldredge thinks he knows the secret man’s soul and women’s soul, but what he is really doing is leading them into more darkness, i.e., doctrines of demons and seducing spirits and science falsely so-called that Paul warns us in Scripture. Three strikes and Hayford is out and should be disqualified on this evidence alone.

See: http://www.psychoheresy-aware.org/wahbkrev.html


Here is just a sampling of what he teaches: http://cnview.com/on_line_resources/paul_crouch_curses_those_who_contend_for_sound_doctrine.htm.

Also see: http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/quotes.html#Crouch and most crucially his promotion of the Pope & Roman Catholicism.


“I see Alpha as a strategic tool, sensitively crafted to address today’s secularized seekers with satisfying answers to their spiritual hunger.”

Jack W. Hayford
King’s Seminary

SOURCE: http://www.alphausa.org/basics/index.html

One of the most extensive and comprehensive documentaries exposing the Alpha Course is entitled:

Alpha – the Unofficial Guide WORLD. It is written by Dusty Peterson and Elizabeth McDonald.

It is available at: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~emcd/index.htm



Link data for chart depicting roots of Alpha Course:


For details of the false teaching and ecumenical ties to the Roman Catholic Church, see Appendix B.

Another great resource is Try the Spirits Volume I by Cecil Andrews. I have enclosed some excerpts from his book.

The leader of the Alpha Course, Nicky Gumbel stated:

“I believe it is no coincidence that the present movement of the Holy Spirit [referring to the Toronto Blessing] has come at the same time as the explosion of the Alpha Course. I think the two go together.”

Cecil Andrews, Try the Spirits, p. 59, 2004.

My comment: This movement, best exemplified by shaking with laughter, slipping into a trance or altered state of consciousness, falling to the floor, and barking like dogs, is not evidence of the working of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit produces the fruit of the spirit known as self-control, not out-of- control. Out of control is, in part, how we recognize when someone needs deliverance from demonic possession. Jesus Christ is not the author of this confusion, but Satan certainly is!

“In short this Alpha Resource unashamedly endorses what has come to be known as the ‘wider hope’ theory. The ‘wider hope’ theory is grounded on the assertion that people can be saved by virtue of Christ’s death without ever consciously hearing of him or embracing the Good News concerning him…we are led to believe that the planet is populated by millions of ‘anonymous Christians’….God supposedly extending ‘wider mercy’ to those who practice non-Christian faiths, Romans 1:18 tells us that God does not ‘reveal His mercy’ to such people but rather ‘His wrath’….any pastor, preacher or Bible teacher who cooperates with Rome rather than confronting Rome and who holds out the false hope of salvation to those who never hear of Christ: such a person, and Nicky Gumbel is one such person, should not be entrusted with teaching the Word of God, for he and they are not, in Paul’s words to Timothy ‘faithful men.”…Any Bible course the Rome is able to endorse cannot possibly be ‘Evangelizing the Lost’ or ‘Equipping the Saints.” Cecil Andrews, Try the Spirits, p. 65-67, 2004.

“The ‘Jesus’ of Alpha is portrayed more as a ‘Solver of human problems’ rather than as a ‘Saviour from sin’…He is presented as One who rescues people from, the consequences of their ‘wrongdoing’ rather than as One who redeems people from the condemnation of their ‘sins’. Cecil Andrews, Try the Spirits, p. 73, 2004.

“Nicky Gumbel…was going to ‘pray down the spirit’ the cameras had to leave. Friends, this is not ‘scriptural’ this is ‘spiritism’ and the testimonies of people afterwards prove it.” Cecil Andrews, Try the Spirits, p. 77, 2004. Above quotes taken from Cecil Andrew’s Book. His website is: http://www.takeheed.net/

Other great resources on exposing Alpha Course: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/%7Eemcd/index30.htm


I expose him in my documentary Creation and Prophecy: Does God Expect Man to be able to Tell Time? Article is available at: http://www.nwcreation.net/articles/theageofearth.html


Gary Greig Biography: http://www.vanguardministries.org/bio-garygreig.asp

Note from his own biography that Greig hotlinks to both Injoy Ministries and Equip, which are headed by John Maxwell who is virtually the E for Equipping in Rick Warren’s Global PEACE Plan.  I expose John Maxwell’s teachings and his unholy alliance with Rick Warren in my second book on Rick Warren entitled:

Rick Warren’s Global Peace Plan vs. Scriptural Teachings on Peace.  The entire book is also available free online at: https://procinwarn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/global_peace_plan.pdf

Todd Bentley’s false teachings (and Gary Greig’s defense of them) aren’t even subtle but glaring.  Instead of repenting of defiling the temple of the Holy Spirit with massive and extensive tatoos all over his body and defying Scripture, Todd Bentley boastfully glories in them…a stumbling block to the “least one of these my children” and the poorest witness.  Instead of repenting you (Brian Olynick) retaliate against the messengers, as though they are the enemy!  No wonder the Apostle Paul said: “I am now therefore the enemy because I tell you the truth”!   So I must strongly rebuke all of you and pray that you repent while there is still a season to repent.  So be assured we will publicly mark you and warn the church.

I had thought I was done with my own report on Todd Bentley and was ready to publish it and expose on the radio nationally and internationally when I read about Jack Hayford’s commentary on this revival which is posted on the Foursquare International website as well as at:

Jack Hayford & Foursquare International Official Statement on Todd Bentley: http://deceptioninthechurch.com/bentleyresponse.html

Therefore, I am now compelled to add the following commentary on Jack Hayford to this article on this “revival!”

The most glaring question I have for Dr. Jack Hayford’s formal Foursquare Church statement regarding Todd Bentley and the Lakeland Revival,

“by any standard of biblical wisdom, it is far too early to assert anything on any terms…We are not called to answer for any other ministry or its report;”

is that if this is his position and that of his board of directors at Church on the Way and the Foursquare Church denomination regarding Todd Bentley and the Lakeland Revival, then why did Gary Greig, one of his teaching pastors and promoters of C. Peter Wagner at his own church, the Church on the Way and Masters Seminary, publish an apologetics defense of Todd Bentley’s actions and so-called revival on the very website and church conducting the revivals?  The pastor of the church, who is one of those presiding over the Lakeland Revival Stephen R. Strader even directed me to Gary Greig as the apologist defending Todd Bentley. 

For Jack Hayford to say that we are not called to answer for any other ministry is nothing short of staggering.  All Christians are called expose the deeds of darkness and false teachings, whether in their own church or a church down the road.  To refrain from speaking out against a wolf in the sheepfold is nothing short of dereliction of duty of a pastor and shepherd who is supposed to be good watchman on the wall!  And if this is true, then why does Hayford participate in Rick Warren’s Purpose Driven hostile take-overs of other churches and denominations which most certainly do intervene in those churches affairs of other churches, expelling those who oppose Rick Warren’s Global Peace Plan.

The second problem with Hayford’s defense or failure to speak out against Todd Bentley is his invoking Gamaliel.  Gamaliel’s statement in the Book of Acts was not prescriptive, but rather descriptive.  There is no evidence that Paul took or used the advice that if it is not of God it will go away after his conversion.  In fact, Paul taught the opposite as evidence by his fear of what would happen to the Church of Ephesus after he died.  The Apostles taught that things would get worse and worse (exactly what we see in Todd Bentley).  If what Gamaliel said is true, then Roman Catholicism and Islam would have long disappeared, but both of these religions boast 2+ billion followers.   It is precisely because the apostate church did follow Gamaliel’s advice that in great part produced the fix we are in today. 

Following Hayford’s kind of unwise counsel is the same kind of advice to refrain from intervention in both the Toronto Blessing and Pensacola nightmare’s in the Assemblies of God and Vineyard.  We  are still recovering from this nightmare because these so-called watchmen on the wall who became spectators and worse participants.  Had George Wood stepped in at the beginning, this nightmare might have been averted in the Assemblies of God.  But what does George Wood do in the case of the latest Rosemary’s Baby?  He issues a statement on June 5, 2008 that does nothing to condemn Todd Bentley’s teachings.   Had he condemned Thomas Trask, the previous General Superintendent of the Assemblies of God,  a destroyer of the brethren and God-fearing AG pastors, and promoter of much the very same false teachings promoted by Bentley, the Assemblies of God denomination might not be in the state of apostasy that it finds itself.  Had Jack Hayford and George Wood intervened in the case of Rick Warren’s teachings and programs, that plague might have been averted in the Foursquare Church and Assemblies of God, respectively.  But what does Jack Hayford do?  He promotes Rick Warren and Richard Foster who cite some of the same contemplative prayer mystics that are the inspiration behind Todd Bentley.

Local churches are required to transfer their assets and title deed to their property to the Foursquare Church International if they decide to become a Foursquare Church. However, if the congregation were to ever vote to no longer be a Foursquare Church, they can certainly do so, but if it does, it cannot get its property back. They basically leave with the shirts on their back. The Christian and Missionary Alliance and many other denominations have similar clauses in their constitutions called “reversion clauses,” so that if a local congregation decides to sever its ties, the property reverts to its district headquarters.

It does not matter how apostate the headquarters or leadership becomes, the local church loses its property, even when fraud was committed by the district or headquarters in seizing the local church, as occurred with the Chinese Alliance Church in Colorado Springs. But the district and/or headquarters must go through some due process to take the local church from the local congregation in the C&MA by invoking the reversion clause. But in the Foursquare Church, the local church never has the assets in the first place to revert, once they become a Foursquare Church. A church can fellowship with the Foursquare denomination but has only two years to make a decision to become full-fledged Foursquare.

Topanga Canyon Christian Church voted to NOT become Foursquare and to date remains independent. So the Foursquare Church does not need a reversion clause to take the property of the local church, because the title deed to the local church property is already in the name of the Foursquare Church International. If anyone doubts this, I invite you to contact Rev. Dan Ussery, who at the time was the Chief Information Officer of the Foursquare Church. Now the Assemblies of God denomination has historically de facto had the power to seize its local churches and has done so repeatedly. However, because of a number of lawsuits, the AOG has won some and lost some. But that is about to change to give absolute sovereignty over the local church property and assets in a vote in the August 2009 General Council convention, which will make de jure what is already de facto:

July 24, 2009.

John, that disciple whom the Lord loved, is known by tradition to have sounded the alarm for Christians to vacate a building when he understood that false teachers were present. He was in fear of the judgment of God. George Wood The Admirer has invited Rick Warren into the belly of the church at GC09 and he will no doubt publicly embrace him.

AG leadership has calculated and prepared this pivotal debasement of those present even as others have sullied their flocks by embracing Warren.

Friday’s GC09 Resolution 1 may be the legal instrument that in the hands of a strong leadership will convert the AG into a proxy for Warren and PEACE. It is a carefully conceived, and decisive betrayal of the once Protestant and Fundamental AG.

The PEACE Coalition is a false church spreading a false gospel. Rick Warren is its prophet.

Steve Svendsen

So it is easy to see how much absolute power that Jack Hayford had in the Foursquare Church. Once he decided to import Rick Warren’s teachings and programs into this denomination, there was virtually nothing any member or anybody could do about it. Like the C&MA and Assemblies of God, the top leadership have absolute power regarding licensing of pastor, credentialing, curriculum, and retribution against any member or licensed pastor that opposes their agenda. Perfect breeding ground for hijacking a local church and their church bank account, and ultimately denomination, paving the way for Rick Warren’s Purpose Driven Church and Global Peace Plan.

There are two articles I wrote which prove that the Foursquare Church Government and its close relatives such as the Assemblies of God and Christian and Missionary Alliance are unbiblical:

See also: https://www.bullhorn.fm/prophecyzoneradionews/posts/dztyvKC-global-peace-plan-with-james-sundquist-hosted-by-susan-puzio



It is not difficult to see that Jack Hayford promotes Dominionist Kingdom Now Theology…the idea that it is the church’s job to take over the world because the denomination of which he as been President, the Foursquare Church International’s founder Aimee Semple McPherson was a Dominionist. This was well known in the news media. But this theology screams from the lyrics of Hayford’s song “Majesty” with lyrics such as “Kingdom authority falls from his throne.” WRONG. Christians do not have Kingdom authority until Christ returns to set up his kingdom on earth…not before.



Hayford mentored and trained LINDA GODSEY, who also was discipled by Robert Morris at Gateway Church. Proof: https://mennoknight.wordpress.com/2016/05/04/generational-curses-part-2-the-scriptural-support/


Neil Anderson believes Christians can be demon-possessed. See the following:


If you Google search for any Foursquare Church, you will commonly see both a man and woman as co-pastors (husband and wife) of local Foursquare Churches. Here is an excellent document exposing Aimee Semple McPherson and current models of the Foursquare Church International church government: (Three Parts)


YOU CAN ALSO REACH HIM AT THE KINGS UNIVERSITY IN TEXAS AT: https://www.tku.edu/about-tku/leadership/

But don’t expect a response, as I have written him, and haven’t heard back from him in almost a half century!

I have also asked a host of Foursquare churches and a host of other denominations if they knew Rick Warren’s SHAPE, DISC, or MBTI and other personality assessments were based on Carl Jung’s Personality Theory. Most did not respond at all. Some responded and said they knew this but it didn’t make any difference. And virtually none of the thousands of inquiries I sent out knew where Carl Jung obtained his personality theory, which was from a spirit-guide named Philemon. I also sent the inquiry to a host of secular and Certified or Licensed Professional Counselors and Professors in Psychology and Counseling. Many more of them knew these tests were based on Jung theories. But only a rare few knew, or would admit where Jung obtained it. And none ever told their students, members, employees, or potential employees where Jung obtained it through magic arts condemned in Scripture.

In addition, a host of Foursquare Pastor and other denominations were alerted to the fraudulent false advertising of Warren’s Purpose Driven Life book claim that is the “bestselling nonfiction hardback book in history,” with forensic evidence it was a false claim. (Look it up yourself to be convinced!). Jesus multiplied the five loaves and two fish, but the outcome total great quantity he produced in a miracle was still a real figure, not an imaginary number or false claim, because that two would be fraud. You don’t feed the five thousand with imaginary or false claim of numbers. But that is precisely what happened below. Not a single response, not a single repentance. Here is just one sales ranking chart: https://amos37.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/BestSellingRankingListinHistory.pdf

George Slowik, President of Publishers Weekly regarding Rick Warren’s claim about his PDL book:

George W. Slowik, President of Publishers Weekly:

“I’ve checked our site which includes all of our content from about 1995. Also touched base with our religion editors and there is no finding of a quote like that…We don’t generally use the term hardback.” September 30, 2013 11:33:08 PM EDT

You can also ask Os Guinness, who spoke at Saddleback Church and confronted Warren that his claim was false because Guinness Book of Records (his own family) far outranks Warren’s PDL book in sales. He confirmed in an email to me.

Jack Hayford, Rick Warren, and Robert Morris are now three legs on the same tripod.

Robert Morris is a leader in the Association of Related Churches (ARC). For list of the legion of ARC false teachers and testimony of one of their abused victims contact:


Tithing Debate between DR. RUSSELL KELLY (Scripture) and

Even if tithing was a Christian Doctrine for the Church, what deductions should you make for every major false teaching by the pastor or denomination? For example, if 50% of the teachings are false, do you cut your tithing in half? Well, believe it or not, Jesus Christ answers this question that if you don’t purge the bad leaven and expel false teachings the entire lump will become leavened, therefore you must reject. And if no repentance or restitution occurs, you must FLEE and come out from among them. If you stay or continue to tithe or contribute money you become an accomplice. So if you are no longer there, there is nothing to tithe to.

I exhort you to view this documentary by Dr. Russell Kelly entitled: TITHING IS NOT A CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE which you can view below:

See also:


There were at least two international stories about a major church split in one of Hayford’s Foursquare church, at Angelus Temple in Los Angeles near Hayford’s Foursquare Church in Van Nuys, California caused by two of Hayford’s major proteges and disciples, Pastors Ed and Ivy Stanton. This is very important because it gives a great inside view of his control-freak Christianity. Here are two links to these news stories: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2001-oct-15-me-57321-story.html

And in the United Kingdom at: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2000/jul/18/duncancampbell

And below is a chart comparing the Law of Moses, with the Church under the Law of Moses, with the third column describing what the Bible teaches on how to govern (Source: http://www.searchoutthescriptures.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/ChartOnMoses.pdf).

LAW OF MOSES: “And it came to pass on the morrow, that Moses sat to judge the people: and the people stood by Moses from the morning unto the evening.” Exodus 18:13
And the  Lord  said unto Moses, Go, get thee down; for thy people, which thou brightest out of the land of Egypt, have corrupted themselves: They have turned aside quickly out of the way which I commanded them: they have made them a molten calf, and have worshipped it, and have sacrificed thereunto, and said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which have brought thee up out of the land of Egypt. And the  Lord  said unto Moses, I have seen this people, and, behold, it is a stiff-necked people: Now therefore let me alone, that my wrath may wax hot against them, and that I may consume them: and I will make of thee a great nation. And Moses besought the  Lord  his God, and said,  Lord, why doth thy wrath wax hot against thy people, which thou hast brought forth out of the land of Egypt with great power, and with a mighty hand? Wherefore should the Egyptians speak, and say, For mischief did he bring them out, to slay them in the mountains, and to consume them from the face of the earth? Turn from thy fierce wrath, and repent of this evil against thy people. Remember Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, thy servants, to whom thou swarest by thine own self, and said unto them, I will multiply your seed as the stars of heaven, and all this land that I have spoken of will I give unto your seed, and they shall inherit it for ever. And the  Lord  repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people. And Moses turned, and went down from the mount, and the two tables of the testimony were in his hand: the tables were written on both their sides; on the one side and on the other were they written. And the tables were the work of God, and the writing was the writing of God, graven upon the tables.” “Wherefore then  serveth  the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made;  and it was  ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.” Galatians 3:19
CHURCH OPERATING UNDER THE LAW OF MOSES: Foursquare church denomination pastors are required under church by laws to keep a dossier on church members, active, or inactive; ‘bylaw of the International Church of the Foursquare Gospel; pastors duties’ page 36, Section C. Church membership for some churches is based on the member putting faith in the found of the church. For example, the Foursquare Church law states: “subscribes and adheres to the ‘Declaration of Faith’ compiled by Aimee Semple McPherson,” Bylaws of the International Foursquare Gospel; church membership page 32, Section C. Dismissal of Membership: “Refusal to adhere to ‘Declaration of Faith’ or comply with the provisions of the articles or these bylaws.” Page 34 Section A. “Faith in this woman founder is required for church membership and to keep church membership.”CHURCH UNDER GRACE: “Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.” Colossians 3:13 “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;” I Timothy 2:5 “For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.” Ephesians 5:30 “For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.” I Corinthians 3:11


Evangelicals call for action on global warming and Climate Change Signatories


The Myth of Climate Change

First, let me say that only 8 people believed that Climate Change was going to happen in 120 days when Noah built the Ark in Faith believing it was going to happen.

But that was God-Made Climate Change, not Man-Made Climate Change. The Result; tens of millions drown and perished on the entire earth, totally extinction of mankind, except for Noah and his family. All God-made Climate Change Deniers on the earth drown in Noah’s Flood, with only 8 surviving extinction on the Ark in 120 days not 12 years! This brings me to my letter to Greta Thunberg:

Dear Greta Thunberg,

I heard your speech to the UN today.

As a God-fearing Christian, I know that we are commanded to be good stewards of God’s Creation. In fact, so critical is this command that God vomited the Israelites out of the land he gave them for polluting the land. And there is no doubt pollution going on today. But what about the environment of infants in the womb of their mother who get aborted? They are surrounded with chemicals and burned to death and torn limb from limb without ever even getting a chance to drink in even one breath of oxygen, or even C02. Isn’t it exponentially hypocritical for many of the world’s “leaders” as you call them to promote the murdering of babies in their mother’s womb’s with exponentially more Nazi like ovens of the mother’s womb than most of mankind is enduring in any man-made climate change outside of the womb. And every single one of these abortions is made-made climate change for the environment of every fetus aborted. So to use your words, “How dare you,” that is what should be said and directed to every woman who aborts a child and destroys their environment for good, resulting in millions upon millions of genocide deaths! And these infants won’t even get 11 years if that is how long the earth will survive, they don’t even get 9 month, in most cases. For all of those people concerned about the children crossing the border into the United States, why don’t they open up the borders of the womb to let them enter unto life and least get a taste of oxygen?

Regarding the question if Climate Change is Man-Made or God-Made, I submit the following question: “How dare you not repent of your sins?”

If someone were to ask me: “Do you believe in Global Warming, or Climate Change?” I would say YES! But not for the reasons they would think. I don’t believe in man-made global warming, but I do believe in God-made global warming as Scripture promises and prophesied. It is called first the Global Flood of water (and never again) as a judgment on the earth, but the next time with fire:

No, there is no such thing as man-made global warming climate change myth, science falsely so-called, as the Apostle Paul would say, rather GOD-made Global Warming as part of the End Times Judgment on the earth of the wicked!

“The first angel sounded his trumpet, and there came hail and fire mixed with blood, and it was hurled down on the earth. A third of the earth was burned up, a third of the trees were burned up, and all the green grass was burned up.” Revelation 8:7

And there is one more God-made Global Warming Climate Change Judgment by still another angel after the first one by the first angel Revelation 8:7:

“And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire. And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.” Revelation 16:8-9

And as you know the Apostle Peter told us that God’s first global judgment was by water with Noah’s Flood, but final judgment (so this will actually be the third global judgment by fire by God) will be by fire where the elements will melt with a fervent heat. I would call that Global Warming, wouldn’t you? But GOD-MADE, not MAN-MADE. But the interesting thing is that even after all of that, God still preserves the earth and mankind (unlike the threats of the Green Party false prophecy). And there will still be seasons.

This is the global warming warning we should teach our children so that they will fear the Lord!

James Sundquist

I recently asked a Robert Endlich, climate scientist if the man-made two atomic bombs dropped on Japan in WWII had any impact on the climate in Japan. He has the data. He verified that there was absolutely no change in the climate in Japan or globally after they were dropped. It is impossible for mankind to produce climate change that would bring extinction to mankind on the earth, whether in twelve years or a thousand years, or ever, because this directly collides with the inerrancy of Scripture and God’s prophecies of how he will bring global warming to the earth that makes any made-made warming of the earth pale in comparison. But even after the cataclysmic apocalyptic that God will bring globally on all of the earth, God does not destroy the earth or exterminate all mankind: “let God be true, but every man a liar” Romans 3:4

Yet the myth lives on, and tragically by many Evangelical Christians like Katherine Hayhoe who also cited Rick Warren. Here is a quote and more proof of the Climate Change fraud perpetrated by Katherine Hayhoe, exposed by Climate Scientist Robert Endlich:

“Here are the first two paragraphs from Reuters:

In a live interview with Reuters on Thursday, Hayhoe explained how climate change was causing weather events such as heatwaves, wildfires, and hurricanes to become more severe and more frequent: https://www.pscp.tv/w/1gqxvagqNBjJB

This is a lie; there is no other way to put it, and I take her and her co-author of NCA4, Peter Wadhams, to task in this post, where I use data analysis to take apart her outright distortions and lies: https://casf.me/critique-fourth-national-climate-assessment/

Next Paragraph from Reuters:

“According to natural factors we should be very gradually but inevitably getting cooler right now,” said Hayhoe, an atmospheric scientist at Texas Tech University in Lubbock. “Instead we’re getting warmer faster than any time in the history of human civilization on this planet.”

“IF you look at the data,” including the GISP2 Ice Core data published by Richard Alley of Penn State, you will see that as Earth started to emerge from the Wisconsin Ice Age, about 14,000 years ago, temperatures warmed 14F in 40 years, second graphic below.

This analysis was done by Dr Don Easterbrook emeritus from Western Washington University, and a friend from the climate conference in Las Vegas in 2014. Look at how puny the present rates of change of temperature are in comparison with earlier times. Reds are increasing temperatures, Degrees F per 100 years, and blues are decreasing temperatures, degrees F per 100 years.

More of her lies are described in my post on her presentation at NMSU: https://casf.me/evening-lecture-alarmist-katharine-hayhoe/

Please read this post.

You will find how this slick, seemingly religious and wholesome-appearing young woman is a master of deceit and deception; she a master and every bit as good at it as Leni Reifenstahl was in Triumph of the Will, the propaganda movie starring Adolf Hitler and his henchmen  in the Nazi Summer Meetings at Nuremberg in the 1930s.

Reuters falls under the spell as deeply as did most Germans of Hitler the 1930s. You have the advantage of this dissenting view in the form of facts, measurements, observations and data.

Comments, discussion, welcome.

ROBERT W. ENDLICH, MSci (Meteorology)

Earth Scientist, Climate Alarm Skeptic
21 years Weather Officer, USAF
28 years Meteorologist White Sands Missile Range & NMSU Physical Science Laboratory
Climate Study Web Site: https://casf.me/

Also see:

REFUTATION OF KATHARINE HAYHOE by Calvin Beisner: https://cornwallalliance.org/2019/11/katharine-hayhoe-strikes-again/

*Editor’s Note: An older version of this expose appears elsewhere on the web, but this updated version, with updated links and sources, appears exclusively at Reformation Charlotte with permission from James Sundquist.

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