Lecrae, who describes himself as a “rapper who happens to be Christian” and is “done with white Evangelicalism,” has taken a sharp turn in the last couple of years to align himself with the Pagan culture rather than the Kingdom of Christ. Over the last few years, Lecrae has made himself at home outside of the Church doors with Pagan rap artists who use regularly use foul language, degrade women, and make racial slurs in their lyrics. Lecrae is a staunch supporter of pro-choice Democrats, one radical pro-abortion Democrat, in particular, Stacy Abrams, and has downplayed the sinfulness of abortion and elevated what he perceives to be “racial injustice” above this murderous sin.

But now, in a recent episode of his podcast, he explains how he regularly attends parties with big-name secular artists including “Diddy,” where wild, homosexual orgies would take place. In the episode, he talks about how he was approached at one party by one secular artist who warned him to leave before the sex parties started. But Lecrae said his pride kept him there and that he thought he could handle himself:

What I will say is that one particular party, lots of big names, there was an artist there who said, “‘Hey, LaCray, around one a .m. “‘Make sure you’re not here.'” And I was like, what? You just don’t wanna be here at one in the morning.

And I was like, now my pride kicked in, like, yo, you don’t know me. Like, you know what I’m saying? I can handle myself. I’m not some little church boy who ain’t never seen nothing. I’m good, like, you know what I mean?

Like, what you talking about? Well, it’s probably 12, 30. I’m downstairs. I go downstairs to the studio, I come up out the studio, and I’m headed back upstairs to the main area where everyone’s kind of congregating and hanging out, and the music changed.

It was like really hard and heavy at first, and then, you know, like jamming, dancing music. It was a little softer. You know, it was a little more sensual when I came out the studio and started going upstairs.

And on my way upstairs, there was like this couch. I won’t say how the couch is designed, because then that may give away whose party and whose house this was. There was a couch, and on the couch, I saw a couple of guys really going at it, hard and heavy.

Gross. Why would he want to be at a party with such things going on? I don’t care if he felt forced or coerced to participate or not. He was participating in it just by his very presence. But here’s the weird part. He says it was shocking, but his reaction to it was kind of non-chalant. “And man,” Lecrae said, “and I was like, oh, you know, my brain, I’m thinking, well, you know, the celebrity party, people do what they do.”

Yes that’s what people do in this industry. And the fact that he’s abandoned the Church to intertwine himself in this lifestyle, whether or not he feels forced to participate in the sex, speaks volumes about him. The fact that he feels comfortable enough to be there, and to lay his eyes on such filth, not just once, but repeatedly, speaks to the state of his soul. Because we know it isn’t just about sex parties after certain hours. These events are fully blasphemous, God-hating events. And if Lecrae were there to be “a light in the darkness” as he suggests in his podcast, then he wouldn’t feel so welcomed around these people—the Scriptures are abundantly clear about that:

“And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed. But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God.” —John 3:19-21

Make no mistake about it, Lecrae would much rather be around these people than Christians. Here’s the clip of Lecrae: